In this special bonus episode, Brian invites his two young adult sons, Caleb and Zachary, to discuss spiritual formation across generations.
Caleb and Zach grew up in the church and are now involved with a church plant in their area. Both share stories of apprenticeship with Jesus, what they find fascinating about Him, and their perspectives on discipleship and institutional churches.
We hope you enjoy this fun, intimate look at three men who are all following Jesus in their own ways, and seeking the Kingdom as they continue to wrestle with what it means to become more like Jesus in our age.
If you watch this on video, be advised that Zach’s camera was having issues. You will hear him perfectly, but his video alternates between clear and blurry.



