As we finish our exploration of the first Key Element of Spiritual Formation, we further consider how a disciple uses Time. Time doing what? And with whom? Are we formed simply by spending more time in the traditional spiritual disciplines, or are there other relationships and activities with which we should be intentionally engaging?
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Time in a Bottle
Soil and Roots explores spiritual formation โ our community journey to become more like Jesus.
However, we live in an age of the โGreat Omission.โ We seem to be struggling to make disciples. Plus, we face three other problems: The Forgotten Kingdom, the Discipleship Dilemma, and the Formation Gap. The good news all of those can be turned around.
Weโre primarily focused on some very deep topics central to discipleship: the unconscious ideas in culture and our hearts that govern us, and how these hidden ideas interact with our desires. Admittedly, this is a non-traditional way of exploring discipleship โ mining our hearts for these mysterious things called ideas. These ideas and desires may or may not align with our belief statements, our doctrine, or our stated worldview.
As we become spiritually formed in Christ, a large part of our journey is uncovering not only the presence of these unconscious ideas but also the reasons why theyโre in our hearts.
This is what Jesus did all the time. He invited those around Him to explore their hearts so that they might draw closer to Him.ย And it had a lot to do with why He spent so much time giving the Pharisees such a hard time.ย They understood their belief system; they understood doctrine.ย But they refused to give Jesus the depths of themselves โ their hearts.ย And they were entrapping others into a system of beliefs that had no impact on their hearts. They were motivated by power and authority, not surrender and humility.
Youโre listening to Season 3, and itโs all about the third Primary Problem, the Formation Gap.
We often consider that what we assume today about โchurchโ โ our unconscious ideas about โchurchโ โ doesnโt always bear much resemblance to what the New Testament assumed and embodied as โchurch.โ
The New Testament idea of church is far more similar to what weโre calling an Immersive Community of Formation, or a Greenhouse, compared to what most of us experience as โchurchโ today. You can find much more information on Greenhouses on the website.ย And weโre going to explore them in detail down the road this season.
Weโre pondering that New Testament communities had far more in common with other normal, highly formative experiences, such as early childhood, marriage, and college, than they do our modern church institutions and experiences.
Does that mean we stop going to church? No. We love our pastors and our churches. I am suggesting that, despite our good intentions, we are missing out on what genuine Christian community and discipleship are, and weโre suffering for it.
We sometimes feel disconnected, lonely, isolated, even in church. Does anyone truly know us? Does anyone want to truly know us? Is there more to the Christian life than what Iโm experiencing?
As Christians living in post-modernity, weโre experiencing an extraordinary gap in our efforts to become like Jesus โ we call it the Formation Gap. And many people donโt even know it. Itโs just the air we breathe.
Weโre finishing up our exploration of the first Key Element of Formation today: time.
Hereโs what weโve covered so far:
To be Formed or Malformed, That is the Question
Human hearts require certain things to be formed or, unfortunately, malformed. We call these things the Five Key Elements of Formation.
Our hearts require increasingly complex instruction, even as adults. ย We look to be instructed about what to do, who we should be, and how we should act.ย And like every grade school student, that instruction needs to start with the basics and, over time, slowly and gently take our hearts into deeper and deeper ideas and truths.
Our hearts require transparency and intimacy. Our most desperate need, our most desperate longing, is to be known by someone who pursues us, who secures us, who loves and accepts us even when weโre messy and broken and wounded and angry. That type of longing can only be met through transparency and intimacy. To be known means we lay ourselves bare, with the good and bad, and to be in relationship with those who do the same. Those who seek our goodness. Those who are trustworthy.
Our hearts require immersive community.ย Safety, trust, acceptance, and formation can only occur in a community of other people who embody these characteristics.ย If weโre isolated and alone, or weโre immersed in a community that does not seek our goodness, our hearts will be formed into darkness.ย Isolation and dark communities produce the same thing: hearts that are mistrustful, wounded, abandoned, numb, frantic, uncertain, and cold.
Our hearts require specifically defined habits to be formed.ย We are integrated beings living in an integrated world.ย And as weโll discover, habits are not just what we do.ย Habits are deeply embedded patterns across all eight of ourย Heartview Indicators: our thinking, emotions, health, behaviors, relationships, words, and time-and-money use.
Habit-forming is one of the most difficult things to do โ just ask anyone who makes New Yearโs Resolutions every year. Theyโre difficult because we normally donโt look at them holistically. And we normally donโt look at our own stories to help us determine why we have the habits we do, and why they may be difficult to change.
And our hearts require intensive time. By โintensive,โ I donโt just mean the quantity of it, I mean the quality of it. The intentionality of it. Time immersed in what and with whom.
As we contemplate forming or joining these types of communities, what sorts of things characterize them in terms of time? Weโve talked about three points so far.
Time in Relationship
In episode 27, we explored time and formation through the lens of modern neuroscience.
Now, for some Christians, looking at anything but the Bible to understand humanity and formation makes them nervous.ย Iโll just remind us that God wrote us two books: special revelation and general revelation.ย Both reveal God.ย God wrote us the Bible, and He wrote us creation (or rather He spoke it).
Because of our current post-Enlightenment, unconscious, somewhat shallow ideas of anthropology, modern Christianity tends to forget about or ignore Godโs second book.
Both books were written by the same Author.ย Both books line up quite nicely and are in complete uniformity.ย You find scores of references to Godโs second book in His first book. The Bible is chock full of stories, parables, references, metaphors, types, themes, and allusions to creation and culture.ย The Bible assumes the reader has a deep understanding of creation.
And Godโs second book, creation, is chock-full of invitations to read Godโs so-called โfirst book.โย The wonder and majesty of the human being, our capacity for thought and morality, a hummingbird, a sunrise, or a symphony provoke us to further explore the Author of Creation.ย And, fortunately, He wrote His first book so that we may get to know Him better.
The Bible is not the only source of truth. 2+2=4 does not appear in the Bible. The Bible is the final arbiter of truth. The Bible is not our only authority. Parents, bosses, governments โ those are all valid authorities. Though the Bible is our final authority.
So, to study modern neuroscience to better understand spiritual formation is a worthy, good, Kingdom-oriented exercise.ย And we should always expect science to completely and seamlessly affirm and align with the Bible.ย Thatโs certainly what the fathers of modern science assumed.
The key point from Episode 27 was a quote from a neuroscientist and his pastor friend.
They wrote, โโฆour right brain governs the whole range of relational life: who we love, our emotional reactions to our surroundings, our ability to calm ourselves, and our identity, both as individuals and as a community. The right side manages our strongest relational connections (both to people and to God) and our experience of emotional connectedness to others. And character formation…Character formation, which is a primary responsibility of the church, is governed by the right brain, not the left brain.โ[1]
The first point weโve learned so far about time in spiritual formation is this: Our spiritual formation in Christ is primarily about the time we spend in relationships.
What relationships? In relationship to God, but also others, ourselves, and creation. Time in intentionally cultivating deep, abiding, trusted relationships. Emotional relationships. Sometimes messy relationships.
In the last episode (Episode 29), we explored two other points related to time as a key element of formation.
Being Present in Time
Because of modern civilizationโs dependence on clocks, watches, productivity, and the constant pressure to be busy (because otherwise we obviously arenโt good stewards of our time), we struggle to be present in time. We are constantly multitasking and focusing on the next to-do, event, meeting, or piece of entertainment.
So, we miss all kinds of opportunities to be present in our four relationships. We struggle to hear Godโs voice. We have a conversation with our spouse, but we arenโt present. Itโs not that we donโt hear their words โ we donโt hear their hearts, which requires a whole different type of presence.
Even in small talk with friends, we miss opportunities to pursue, to seek their goodness, and to heal. Being present in seemingly random conversations sometimes yields wonderful opportunities for restoration and the Kingdom.
And in relation to ourselves? Well, weโd rather not engage in Heartview. Weโd rather not know and explore the desires and hidden ideas in our hearts. So, we keep ourselves busy with distractions, even religious ones, so we avoid engaging in our stories, entering into necessary suffering, and being courageously curious when our hearts are screaming for healing.
More Dialogue, Less Monologue
The third point weโve explored about time: more dialogue and less monologue, particularly in relation to Godโs Word. As humans, weโre formed far more effectively through interaction, relationship, debate, and honest discussion than we are simply listening to lectures.
Our key quote on this point is from Clyde Reid.
โThe adult members of churches today rarely raise serious religious questions for fear of revealing their doubts or being seen as strange. There is an implicit conspiracy of silence on religious matters in the churches. This conspiracy covers up the fact that the churches do not change lives or influence conduct to any appreciable degree.โ[2]
If heโs correct, thereโs no better explanation of the Formation Gap. If the modern church does not change lives or influence conduct, thatโs the opposite of a truly formative community.
Many of our churches havenโt created a public, affirming culture where we can ask questions publicly, honestly express doubts, offer counterpoints, or engage in dialogue about the sermon or other teachings.ย The underlying assumption is this: we teach, you listen.
Now we might say, โWell, we dialogue in Bible study in small groups.โย I hope we do, but it depends on our group’s culture, purpose, and leadership.ย If we go to a Bible study and the study guideโs questions simply ask us to regurgitate the text, thatโs not very formative.ย We may walk away knowing more about Jesus, but are we becoming more like Jesus?
How many of us sat in high school or college and memorized the material just long enough to answer the question on the test, only for the information to be gone forever afterward?
If your Bible study or small group leader intends for the class to help form you more and more into the likeness of Jesus, there will be space and openness for you to share your story, ask questions, express doubts, challenge the material, and even disagree with someone politely and winsomely.
By the way, Iโll just note that if your church or Bible study decides to adopt a more dialogue-centric approach, not only should the congregation be invited to interact with a sermon or message in appropriate ways, the pastor or teacher should also be invited to ask questions.
Just curious: do you think weโd pay more attention to the sermon if we knew the pastor might ask us a question or two directly after his message?ย Hmmโฆ
So, to summarize, three ways people in a formative community treat time:
- Discipleship is time in intentional relationships. We cultivate and celebrate discipleship as a primarily relational journey, which requires substantial time in all four relationships.
- Present in Time. Weโre always moving towards being present, spiritually attuned, and gently pursuing, in our relationships with God, others, self, and creation.
- More dialogue, less monologue. We intentionally cultivate an environment where doubts, questions, concerns, and polite dissent are welcomed and encouraged in our time exploring both of Godโs books, primarily His first.
As we finish up our exploration of time this episode, letโs get a bit more practical.
In the last episode, I quoted several comments from Dallas Willard. About discipleship, he remarked, โDisciples are simply people who are constantly revising their affairs to carry through on their decision to follow Jesus.โ
Iโve said that a disciple is someone who reorders or reprioritizes their life so that becoming more like Jesus is their โfirst thing.โ We seek first the Kingdom and its King.
What would it mean to revise our affairs, or reorder some things, so that our time was oriented in a way so becoming more like Jesus is our first thing?
Letโs take a look at this in light of the four relationships God has placed us in. And letโs start with our relationship with God.
Time with God
How we relate to God and how we spend time with God have been explored and written about for centuries. ย ย There are thousands of books, teachings, and devotionals about how we may relate with God.
We probably know about how prayer, the Word, fasting, meditation, Scripture memory, confession, the role of the Holy Spirit, and corporate worship are essential ways we relate to God so that we grow to love Him more. We call most of these โspiritual disciplines.โ
We could argue that weโve lost the essence and practice of many of these spiritual disciplines today.ย But anything I would add here would simply be repeating what far smarter and more thoughtful pastors, writers, and teachers have already said over the years.
So, Iโll just note one reminder about how our relationship with ourselves impacts our relationship with God.
If we want to develop and grow in God, He invites us to enter into our own stories as part of that journey.ย Dealing authentically and kindly with our stories shapes how we relate to God, because our hearts translate those stories into all our relationships, including with Him.
If you read the Bible and feel anger or loneliness or condemnation or nothing, it may be time to take a look at your story. If you pray and pray but canโt seem to sense Godโs presence, it may be time to dive into your story.
If you donโt feel emotionally connected to God (who created our emotions), it may be because of your story.
If you struggle to relate to God as He primarily reveals Himself in both of His books โ as a loving, faithful, good Father โ your struggle may have nothing to do with the amount of time you spend in prayer, or how often you fast, or how many verses youโve memorized. It may be your gentle Fatherโs way of inviting you back into your story so He can meet you there. So that He may heal you.
In Anatomy of the Soul, Curt Thompson writes, โYou cannot know God if you do not experience being known by HimโฆAnd the degree that you are known by Him will be reflected in the way in which you are known by other people.ย In other words, your relationship with God is a direct reflection on the depth of your relationship with others.โ[3]
This is why we may be discerning some wounds or brokenness in our hearts through how we relate to Godโs books. Or in our prayer time. Or when we sit in church.
If your highly formative earthly relationships, whether parents, caregivers, siblings, teachers, mentors, or spouses, did not embody kindness, gentleness, a desire to know you and your heart, a desire for your goodness, your heart assumes that same type of broken relationship with God.ย And coming to embrace the love of the Father may not be as simple as reading Bible verses about Him.ย Itโs something that needs to be experienced, explored, and, in many cases, may involve some grieving.
Ecclesiastes reminds us: โIt is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of feasting.โ[4]
Relationship with Others
As we contemplate how to form communities like Greenhouses today, who else should we spend time with so that our hearts take on more of the likeness of Jesus?
This is probably common sense, but spending intentional, substantial time with people who think, act, speak, desire, and love a lot like Jesus. People who remind us of Jesus.
They have a quiet confidence. Not arrogance, but confidence.ย They know who they are and whose they are.ย They probably donโt walk around quoting Scripture all the time.ย They probably arenโt upfront or in the spotlight; they may prefer to stay behind the scenes.ย They may be a leader in your church, but they may not.
These are people who, when theyโre with you, are with you.ย Theyโre present.ย They pursue you in the best sense of the word.ย They intentionally seek whatโs good for you, even if it hurts a little bit.ย They probably donโt tolerate it when you say, โIโm fine,โ and they have an uncanny knack of asking the right questions at the right time.ย They see you.ย Not just the outside you, but the inner you.
They certainly arenโt perfect, but they areโฆdifferent. People who are deeply in love with Jesus and are becoming more like Him are just a bit different from most of us.
I donโt want to take this metaphor too far, but there is a sense that discipleship is more about whatโs caught than taught. Weโve heard that phrase in parenting and education for decades.
In The Master Plan of Discipleship, Robert Coleman discusses the formalization of the worship service over time and compares it to the New Testament church.ย He touches on the point I made earlier about dialogue vs. monologue, then goes further, relating it to community and relationships.
In discussing New Testament gatherings, he wrote, โThroughout the meeting, ample opportunity seems to have been given for personal participation. Each believer was free to exercise his or her spiritual gift, ask questions, and share any concern, as the Spirit might lead. Officers in the local fellowship doubtless provided some direction to the service, but the worshippers were not dependent on them.
Worship patterns gradually became more formalized toward the close of the first centuryโฆThis is not to disparage formality or to belittle the need for defining doctrine, for an increasingly complex body must have some stabilizing order. But in the formalizing process, we must preserve the fellowship that gives heart to the structure.โ[5]
Later on, he writes, โReading the Acts, one gets the impression that the Christians just enjoyed doing things together. In these casual relationships, probably more than in their gathered meetings, they learned what it meant to follow Christ in the daily routine of life.โ[6]
He concludes, โThe spiritual life of the Christian community clearly is interwoven with their continuous interpersonal association.โ[7]
So, time with others in daily life. Time with people who remind us of Jesus, in addition to weekly or official gatherings.
Perhaps in our modern, transient times, this is the most challenging and vexing aspect of the key element of time. How do we find the time to spend time with people who love like Jesus so that we โcatchโ what it means to love like Jesus?
If we struggle with anxiety, who might we spend time with who will engage our story and who isnโt very anxious? Someone with whom we experience calm, confidence, and trust.
If under the surface weโre fearful, who might we spend time with who will engage our story, and who isnโt full of fear?ย Someone with whom we experience stability, certainty, and trust.
Itโs a matter of thinking through our relationships and praying about who in our circle reminds us of Jesus. Again, itโs not necessarily about theological knowledge or gifts of the Holy Spirit, emotional reactions in worship services, or titles or who in your church has the most successful business.
Who in your circle pursues you for your goodness? Who invites you into a deeper relationship?ย Who takes you as you are, isnโt trying to manipulate or coerce you?ย Isnโt using you, isnโt exploiting you?ย Rather, they invite you to become more like Jesus simply because they love Jesus and they love you.
Those are the types of people we all need to be aroundโฆa lot. Are there ways we can creatively reorder our lives so that we invite these saints into our world and do some portion of life together?
I know โ itโs pretty radical compared to our rugged individualistic, โpull yourself up by your bootstraps,โ โI gotta get to my next meetingโ lifestyle.ย Reordering our lives to consistently be in the presence of loving saints isnโt easy.
Also, Iโll just note that part of the reason we donโt seek out time with these types of wonderful folks is that weโre so trained to โgo.โย Instead of viewing the Christian life as one of deep fellowship, we feel guilty if we arenโt doing something, going somewhere, or giving ourselves away to someone.
We tend to forget certain parts of the Great Commission.ย When Jesus says to โmake disciples,โ weโre discovering thatโs a time-saturated, fantastic relational journey in community.ย Overseas missions are wonderful, but donโt forget the mission in your marriage or your family or your church or on your street or in your own heart.ย And we canโt forget the very last thing Jesus said before He ascended was a reminder that He is with us.ย He is present.ย He abides.ย He dwells.ย The very last thing He said is a beautiful picture of a lasting, secure, safe, transparent relationship.
Time with Ourselves
When we talk about how a small, immersive community, such as a greenhouse, is characterized by time with ourselves, that may sound a bit strange.ย What do we mean by spending time with ourselves?
Letโs go back to Season 2 and Heartview. Being a disciple means getting to know two people really, really well. Jesus and ourselves. And to learn to love them both.
Soren Kierkegaard wrote, โBut to love oneself in the divine sense is to love God, and truly to love another person is to help that person to love God…โ[8]
As part of our spiritual formation, do our formative communities intentionally cultivate an environment where we can safely and gently explore ourย Eight Indicators,ย listening to and digging into the ideas and desires that govern our hearts? Have we gently but authentically revisited and dealt with our own stories?
Do we take the time to pay attention to our thought patterns? When we talk to ourselves, whatโs our tone? What type of language do we use? Do we treat ourselves with kindness, as an image-bearer of God, or do we treat ourselves harshly?
Emotions. Do we accept that our emotions are good gifts from God?ย Are we taking the time to pay attention when weโre anxious or fearful, when weโre angry or sad or glad?
Do we take the time to assess our spiritual, emotional, and physical health?
What about our relationships? As we just asked, are we spending time with people who seek our goodness? If at least some of our discipleship is more caught than taught, are we spending time with people who, just by the nature of how they treat us, are forming us?
And on to our actions, our words, and how we relate to time and money.
Are we courageously curious about our indicators? If we go on a spending spree on things we canโt afford or donโt need, are we courageously taking the time to ask why? If weโre surprisingly irritated with our children, can we take a step back, take some time, and ask why?
We are not responsible for the harm thatโs been done to us. We are, however, responsible when that harm results in us harming others.
As author Jay Springer notes, โAlways someone else has to suffer because I donโt know how to suffer; that is what it comes down to.โ[9]
A formative community like a Greenhouse teaches, trains, and models Heartview in a safe, trusted environment. It encourages people to take the time to understand how God has wired them and how their story impacts their hearts and their other three relationships.
Can Heartview be difficult? Yes. Can it be messy? Yes. Do we need to exercise great care and concern? Yes.
But when we invite God into the ideas and desires of our hearts, we are engaging in authentic spiritual formation.
Time with Creation
And lastly, what characterizes a deep disciple in relation to their time spent with creation?
Creation can be defined a couple of ways, but when weโre talking about creation in context of the four relationships, weโre talking about nature and its derivatives. Culture is a derivative of creation. Itโs man forming governments, institutions, arts, and so on from the natural order.
God has placed us in our four relationships with two primary purposes: to love and to rule. We love God, we love others, we love ourselves, and we steward creation and culture, which is in itself an act of love.
This is called the Cultural Commission or the Cultural Mandate, and itโs first found in Genesis 1:28. God created the world good, and he appointed mankind to populate it and to subdue it, to refine it, to mold it, to adapt it for His Kingdom purposes.
As rulers of creation, do we spend time subduing it? Of course, we all do. If you mow the lawn, youโre subduing creation. Bake a cake? Youโre making something beautiful and tasty out of independent ingredients. You are integrating what is dis-integrated.
Writing software? Ruling creation. Fixing a broken fence? Ruling creation. Growing food? Ruling creation. Making music? Ruling creation. Youโre taking notes and sounds that are otherwise independent and chaotic and bringing them into a beautiful, organized, sonic work of art. Building roads and bridges, developing financial reports, making someone breakfast, managing a project, writing a novel, raising your kids, creating a flower bouquet, knitting a blanket โ all aspects of our relationship with creation as we rule and steward it on behalf of and in relation to our King.
In modern Christianity, we tend to think weโre only stewarding creation and culture if weโre in some sort of ministry, running for public office, or building a house with Habitat for Humanity. We canโt possibly be ruling creation unless itโs some sort of โChristianโ activity. All those things are good, and theyโre a part of bringing order and beauty from disorder and chaos, but a deep disciple recognizes the beauty of ruling creation in the mundane. And we celebrate it, and we honor it.
It’s difficult in the West right now because weโve unconsciously accepted the idea of โChristian vs. secular.โย Christian music and secular music. Christian bookstores and secular bookstores.ย Christian organizations and secular organizations.
Not to overstate the obvious, but the only thing that can truly be โChristianโ is a person. And if we accept Psalm 24:1 (The earth is the Lordโs and all it contains, the world and those we dwell in it), then there is no such thing as โsecular.โ Itโs all sacred. It all belongs to God.
Our purpose, then, is to rule and steward creation wherever we are.ย Weโre characterized by the time we spend making order out of disorder, bringing healing to hurt, providing structure from disorganization, integration where thereโs disintegration, beauty from ashes, overcoming evil with good.
The Bible is filled with all sorts of โreโ words: redeem, renew, reconcile, restore, refine, reborn.ย As rulers of creation, we bring order and, because of sin, we work to fix whatโs been broken.ย We reverse the effects of sin with our King, whether itโs in our hearts, our marriages, our families, our jobs, our communities, or in what we call the broader Seven Mountains of Culture: perhaps in government, the arts, or business.
Wrapping Up Time
Time is a crucial element of our spiritual formation. A deep disciple relates to God through spiritual disciplines and our other three relationships. And we recognize God is calling us, inviting us, speaking to us in a myriad of ways.
A deep disciple seeks out relationships with people who remind her of Jesus. Sometimes discipleship is more caught than taught.
A deep disciple engages his own story, his own wounds, with courageous curiosity, understanding that his depth of relationship with God is directly related to his relationship with himself.
And a deep disciple recognizes there is no โsecular.โ There is only sacred. We honor, celebrate, and look for opportunities to rule and steward it for the benefit of others, and to the glory of its Creator, even in the mundane. Jesus invites us to continuous acts of โreโ: redeem, restore, reconcile, refine, renew. Not only with people, but with His creation and culture.
[1] Wilder & Hendricks. The Other Half of Church, p. 22. Moody.
[2] Willard, D. (1998.) The Divine Conspiracy: Rediscovering Our Hidden Life in God (p. 223). Williams Collins.
[3] Thompson, C. (2010). Anatomy of the Soul: Surprising Connections Between Neuroscience and Spiritual Practices that can Transform your Life and Relationship (p. 24). Tyndale Momentum.
[4] New American Standard Bible: 1995 update (Ec 7:2). (1995). The Lockman Foundation.
[5] Coleman, R. (1998). The Master Plan of Discipleship (p. 57). Revell.
[6] Coleman, R. Master Plan of Discipleship (p. 59). Revell.
[7] Coleman, R. Master Plan of Discipleship (p. 60). Revell.
[8] Kapic, K.(2022). Youโre Only Human: How Your Limits Reflect Godโs Design and Why Thatโs Good News (p. 63). Brazos Press.
[9] Springer, J. (2018). Unwanted: How Sexual Brokenness Reveals Our Way to Healing (p. 32). NavPress.

