In this special bonus episode, Brian invites his two young adult sons, Caleb and Zachary, onto the show to discuss spiritual formation in different generations.
Caleb and Zach grew up in the church and are now involved with a church plant in their area.
Both share stories of their apprenticeship with Jesus, what they find fascinating about Him, and their perspectives on discipleship and institutional churches.
We hope you enjoy this fun, intimate look at three men who are all following Jesus in their own ways, and seeking the Kingdom as they continue to wrestle with what it means to become more like Jesus in our age.
If you watch this on video, be advised that Zach’s camera was having hissy fits. You will hear him perfectly, but his video alternates between clear and blurry.
Watch or listen on YouTube, Spotify, or your favorite platform.

