Ep 132: My Two Sons (Bonus Episode)

How do young adults become like Jesus in a distracted, anxious, hyperconnected world? In this bonus episode near the close of Season 6, Brian invites his two young adult sons, Caleb and Zach, into a conversation about spiritual formation across generations. Both grew up in church, but both describe a deeper awakening in young adulthood — through hardship, relationships, service, community, and the slow realization that following Jesus had to become their own journey. Caleb and Zach share honestly about growing up in a Christian home, wrestling with shallow faith, experiencing crisis and renewal, and learning what it means to follow Jesus as young men. They talk about Jesus as comforter, His mysterious and indirect ways, God’s delight, church involvement, worship, service, small groups, and the joy of discovering that God not only loves them, but likes them and wants them involved in His Kingdom. The conversation also explores what younger generations are facing: social media, identity confusion, institutional skepticism, shallow content, and the difference between information and real discipleship. Brian, Caleb, and Zach discuss why spiritual formation cannot happen through short videos, religious checklists, or church attendance alone. The heart is formed through time, habit, community, intimacy, instruction, experience, and relationship.

BY Brian Fisher

October 20, 2025

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Spiritual Formation for Young Adults

In this special bonus episode, Brian invites his two young adult sons, Caleb and Zachary, onto the show to discuss spiritual formation in different generations.

Caleb and Zach grew up in the church and are now involved with a church plant in their area.

Both share stories of their apprenticeship with Jesus, what they find fascinating about Him, and their perspectives on discipleship and institutional churches.

We hope you enjoy this fun, intimate look at three men who are all following Jesus in their own ways, and seeking the Kingdom as they continue to wrestle with what it means to become more like Jesus in our age.

If you watch this on video, be advised that Zach’s camera was having hissy fits. You will hear him perfectly, but his video alternates between clear and blurry.

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