Ep 57: The Participation Award (GH)

Should pastors primarily teach information or train disciples? In this Greenhouse discussion, Brian Fisher and Kyle Moody continue unpacking the themes from Episode 56 by exploring one of the central challenges facing modern discipleship. Together they examine how many churches have unintentionally adopted an educational model of spiritual growth, emphasizing information transfer while often neglecting the deeper work of transformation. The conversation explores the difference between pastors as teachers and pastors as trainers, the influence of modern church structures, and why becoming like Jesus requires more than sermons, classes, and Bible studies. Brian and Kyle also discuss apprenticeship, the role of community in formation, and why discipleship must move beyond knowledge into lived experience.

BY Brian Fisher

August 7, 2023

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Ep 57: The Participation Award (GH)
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Pastor as Teacher vs Trainer

Further exploring Episode 56, Kyle and Brian dig into this critical question: Why do most of us not experience repetitious and increasingly complex, formative Christian education today?

They discuss two out-of-the-box explanations: our assumptions about the afterlife and our assumptions about the role of a pastor.

And along the way, they argue about elementary school multiplication tables. Come along for the ride!

This episode continues the discussion from Ep 56.

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